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BFBC2 BETA REVIEW (warning spoilers)

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7 years 7 months ago #8974 by laughing+goat
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I know someone whom has played the beta for BFBC2. (myself)
This topic does contain spoilers so if your not interested in hearing anything about BC2, until release date then hit back now. (or just turn off your computer)

Im not sure if this has been discussed at any level as ive been off the forums for awhile, but here is a quick review of what ive seen so far in BC2!.

The support class has been completely dropped in favour of 4 main classes, Assault, Medic, Engineer and Recon. But with abit of a twist, the assualt class now has the ammo hub, while the medic has access to the PKM of the mark, which has always been typical of the support class in BF series. Each class has its own set of weapon unlocks, ranging from 4 or so up to seven different sniper rifles for recon.
General class weapon unlocks (shotguns plus some other assult style weapons) mean you can still play the old special ops, or shotgun whore classes. With greater flexibilty ie, you can have a shotgun and C4, or a medic pack or ammo hub even an engineer's repair tool.
(which has now been incorperated into an offensive weapon, you can even use it too "unrepair" enermie vechiles, distracted snipers etc)

The feel of the game has changed quite alot, from the open plains of BF2142, to a smokey sound rich enviroment, which feels ALOT more like a real warzone. Fully interactive, means those silly sniper camping spots dont last too long.

The knife weapon has been dropped in favour of a melee attack, isn't as quick as MW2, melee attack and kinda times and feels like hitting a dart board with a meatcleaver. You still gain tags for melee kills.

So far vechiles look great, the tanks play like real tanks, you can just smash yourway though most things, but defenantly have feild of view weakness, unless you check your exterinal camera from time to time. There is 3 different attack helicopters, and the blackhawk. Plus a wee controllable UAV drone that can call in missles. (contolled via a console in the home base, simular to a titan gun etc)
The black hawk is great and serves more as an attack chopper aswell, rather than something explosive to ram with. One thing you'll notice about flying the heli's is once your start loosing controll..... you'll know what i mean... First time flying the blackhawk it was a blackhawk pine tree trimmer...

One exciting thing about BFBC2, is if you have a noob moment... eg smashup on takeoff, high speed crash with a ATV (2 seated quad bike) it has a wee picture and the words "EPIC FAIL". Which i found quite funny.

Probably the only weird/random factor i've spotted so far is your ability to melee down wire fences that kinda explode into bits after you stab them. Not at all realistic IMO, or in match the realism aimmed at with this game.

well that will do for now, ask away if there is any questions you might have,

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7 years 7 months ago #8982 by S.A.F Survival
S.A.F Survival replied the topic: Re:BFBC2 BETA REVIEW (warning spoilers)
what do we know of our beta characters..? do they slide across to the final release awards/unlocks and all..? or do we start from scratch.?
and is the beta key linked to your final copy.?

only ask cause i will start a new player on the final release

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7 years 7 months ago #8983 by S.A.F I-Robot
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I think I read somewhere progress and unlocks carry over, cant say for certain though.

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7 years 7 months ago #8992 by laughing+goat
laughing+goat replied the topic: Re:BFBC2 BETA REVIEW (warning spoilers)
Im not so sure about that, i was playing the beta before, with no unlocks etc. I wouldn't be suprised if they dont carry over.

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7 years 7 months ago #8999 by S.A.F GOATKILLER?
S.A.F GOATKILLER? replied the topic: Re:BFBC2 BETA REVIEW (warning spoilers)
im level 3 and played it for 1.5hrs in total, very very laggy, if i was not lagging so much id be really kicking ass...also server screen does not show latency???!

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7 years 7 months ago #9009 by S.A.F Survival
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yeah alot of stiff nott enabled for the BETA thing that pisses me off is you can go to your fav server without it loading ALL the servers....boring...can wait to get the real thing will read the mini book from front to cover

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7 years 7 months ago #9010 by S.A.F GOATKILLER?
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so are other ppl lagging, and wht server has least ammount of lag anyone? or maybe its system settings aswel mmmm

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7 years 7 months ago #9022 by S.A.F I-Robot
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Ive been using play now link because of bulletins about connection probs (not had much luck at all actually picking a server) - i get awful lag sometimes too, possibly its due to too many people with mismatched pings getting funneled into whatever server and also that server maybe not being the closest or fastest one due to having to use play now due to reported issues.

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7 years 7 months ago #9024 by S.A.F aBuckenFastard
S.A.F aBuckenFastard replied the topic: Re:BFBC2 BETA REVIEW (warning spoilers)
ploppy tweezer survival and i have been playing on gamerhub seems ok to me

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7 years 7 months ago #9025 by S.A.F I-Robot
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ah ok thx, might try, has anyone else had the notice about the update and actually managed to get it??

Fails every time for me :/

Ive looked for a donload source to do a manual dl but not found yet.

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7 years 7 months ago #9038 by Coincidence
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So basically, the unlock system is similar to 2142? How is the infantry combat?

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7 years 7 months ago #9046 by S.A.F GOATKILLER?
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quite a bit different is the unlock system, the more you play with the type , eng med etc the more you open, but at the same time the more points you get as a player etc GOATKILLER? you get unlocks..

You dont choose what you unlock. it depends on your unit type and how much use they get

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7 years 7 months ago #9049 by S.A.F Survival
S.A.F Survival replied the topic: Re:BFBC2 BETA REVIEW (warning spoilers)
FYI - gamerhub is renting the servers from OZ, cause Im pinging around 36-38
if the server was based in NZ I would be pinging around 9-12

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7 years 7 months ago #9054 by laughing+goat
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<strong>S.A.F I-Robot wrote:</strong>

ah ok thx, might try, has anyone else had the notice about the update and actually managed to get it??

Fails every time for me :/

Ive looked for a donload source to do a manual dl but not found yet.


If you updater doesn't work run "BFBC2betaupdater.exe" as ADMINISTRATOR. Its found in the root dir that the beta is installed.

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7 years 7 months ago #9055 by laughing+goat
laughing+goat replied the topic: Re:BFBC2 BETA REVIEW (warning spoilers)
After some more play:

Looks like tank camping is alive and well, as well as sniper noobing.

Played quite a few matchs where the attacking team does little more than camp the hill. However, it is quite easy to take out both the objectives with JIHAD ATV's.

Good to see that JIHAD still remains in BF. lol. YEAH YEAH YEAH.

I havent had much luck getting latency readings from servers either the one time i did i noted that most UK servers gave me a 300+ ping, which would normally make BF2142 for example completely unplayable. I sydney server gave a ping of 50ish, and it was noted that this helped alot with the hit rego issues i found quite common.

My biggest concerns with this game so far...

Unlimited run... amoung the avatars to me just seem to light and kinda waddle around like some sort of killer pengiun, Im not a huge fan of how controlls respond either.

All the smoke effects make me concerntrate harder espically the blur effects on the sniper scope, I think players will experience alot more headaches etc from playing this game.

The medic aka (support weapons ala ganz) seem terribley underpowered, I think they need to up the damage but increase the spread abit. Compairing to the GANZ in bf2142, boy that thing had power and at range aswell. Took more skill than most weapons but dam... the PKM just doesn't have it.

The shotguns seem to fire too slowly.

Pistols seem too overpowered.

THE KILL CAM IS AN EPIC FAIL.

1) the movement of tracking is terrible.
2) gives your posistion away... for no good reason.
3) just a copycat MW2 party trick IMO.

I hope its completely dropped from the game or I would only ever play on servers without kill cam's on.

Thats it for now

would be interested in other ppl's thoughts so far.

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7 years 7 months ago #9056 by S.A.F Masterpetey
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aye, it did seem to me like it is very similar to mw2 in some aspects, but do you think thats what most people want?perhaps ea/dice noticed how much attention the cod series is getting and are trying to strive for a similar sort of game feel?
since all they care about is money....thats why computer games these days need patches...all the rush to get the money in the bank...
haha im just thinking how it would feel to my customers if i gave them coffee without the milk in it, then after 5 minutes brought them milk for their flat white in a seperate jug.....

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7 years 7 months ago #9059 by Coincidence
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Well, it's just beta, so the real game should be much more different when it's released. And it can get patched overtime, although they're not like Valve, who is the only company who takes balance in their games seriously (just look at TF2 even though it's not that great, it's the most balanced game I've ever played) as where DICE screwed over BFH when they make the underpowered the powerful and vice-versa (the only untouched class would be the Soldier).

Is it true that the download for the BC2 beta is 15 GB?

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7 years 7 months ago #9062 by S.A.F M3RRiK
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As Matty said we have to remind ourselves that it's a beta version. They have lots of optimisation to complete for each platform and also a rework on the textures which will add more eye candy. Here's a link to an official post from the rendering architect at DICE.

If you put +fullproc on your shortcut it will share the load across all processors for those with multicore (most of you I suspect). Some are saying it increased frame rate but I wouldn't expect that so if anyone can post benchmarks I for one would be very interested.

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7 years 7 months ago #9063 by S.A.F M3RRiK
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Download is 1.5 GB, not 15 GB. There is something posted somewhere (according to Te) that said the final game will be 15GB, which I assume means 2 DVDs. The beta install is interesing in that the game (exe, libraries, models, textures...) is only 800MB and the rest is sounds! Guess that's why the sounds are soo good!

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7 years 7 months ago #9188 by S.A.F Kastaboy
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Soo far I get really dizzy after about 10 mins of playing ?? cant play it for more than a couple of rounds without having a break
I guess it will take some time to get used to !!

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